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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:28 pm 
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Thought they only used EV for getting in and out of ports near big cities for reducing local pollution? Are there any which can go a decent distance at sea on EV?

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DrJohn wrote:
Just saw an adver for the new Golf E - all electric. 120mile range, 17hrs full charge on a 13amp normal plug, or more like 45mins on a 5kW supercharger. The grid is just fine to cope with 12hr charges, but the issue for me is two fold. 1) most electricity is still fossil fuel so 'bad' for the environment. 2) The majority of greenhouse gases come from our excessive consumption of meat and dairy produce so the output from cars is neglegable! The European fleet of 6 carnival cruise ships produce more greenhouse gases than all the cars in Europe combined! That's just 6 ships!! Transport pollution is small gains compared to agriculture and cars are small gains within transport! Saving a few pence each year won't make the mortgage anymore affordable this month!!


Point 1 is absolutely incorrect. Coal powered stations are subsidised to stay on back up only. There are more days than ever whereby the uk is powered up on nuclear or renewables and the coal powered stations are not used at all. Instead of subsidising the coal stations the money should be invested in more wind and solar. There’s also a lot of wave power options out there too. Just not enough investment to get them properly viable as governments are still in the dark ages.

As for other transport, buses, trucks, boats should be looking at hydrogen, not diesel power. We should not be increasing airport capacities, new runways, increased numbers of planes.

But remember, every mile not using fossil fuels is a gain. Every little helps. If we don’t stop we increase chances of our children, or grand children seeing extinction in their lifetimes.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:08 am 
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DrJohn wrote:
Thought they only used EV for getting in and out of ports near big cities for reducing local pollution? Are there any which can go a decent distance at sea on EV?


There’s a Chinese cargo ship with 2.4MWh of batteries iirc, I’ll look it up later.

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Coal is generating 2% or less of uks electricity and reducing. Uk has had periods of 2wks or so without using a drop of coal to generate power. Time to stop subsidising these stations and use the money to build more wind and solar and back them up with battery storage.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:40 pm 
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A circa £120k EV solution......launch to coincide with Porsche’s arrival into Formula E



With many key brands now in Formula E I’d expect to see a uplift in EV launches in next year or so. Some far more attainable for Mr and Mrs Suburbia and their 30mile a day commute. Unless the Daily Fail continues to brain wash them their house will blow up if they plug it in.....


The Taycan has also completed over 2100miles in a 24hr period on Nardo test ring, including stops to change driver and charge the batteries. Thats Equivalent to driving from Italy's 'heel' to Trondheim in Norway..........So how far do you want to drive in a day in an EV**??

**will need 150KwH chargers in convenient locations.........current rapid chargers are 50KwH.

UK government have offered £2.5m funding for more on street charging points. To put that into perspective the UK government supplies £10.5bn in subsidies to fossil fuel industry per annum. Higher than any other EU Country. They could easily push more of that cash towards renewables, let alone on street charging!

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dd924 wrote:
DrJohn wrote:
Thought they only used EV for getting in and out of ports near big cities for reducing local pollution? Are there any which can go a decent distance at sea on EV?


There’s a Chinese cargo ship with 2.4MWh of batteries iirc, I’ll look it up later.


Somewhat disappointed to find it only has an 80km range but it is a 2000 ton vessel.

The Yara Birkeland will be launched next year with over three times that amount of battery, it may be initially operated remotely but is hoped to become fully autonomous.

It would be interesting if the UK brings canals back into commercial use with electric barges.

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dd924 wrote:
It would be interesting if the UK brings canals back into commercial use with electric barges.


Needs to fully electrify the rail system first...... :whistle:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:31 am 
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The first 150W electron drinking holes have arrived at a BP station near Heathrow in August. Can fill a battery with electrons faster than most EV chargers can handle at the moment with 100 miles range within 10 minute capability. Will be 100 more installed by year end and 400 more in 2020. I haven't check pricing but I would assume the KwH price is not cheap. BP will want to profit and I guess the average 2p per mile EV versus 12-15p per mile fossil fuel gap will not be so far apart when buying from a fossil fuel company

The first 350W drinking hole has been installed, but as yet no EV's released to date can drink that fast.

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Omega forged pistons, lightened and balanced bottom end, ARP studs + Cometic MLS HG, Piper fast road cam, K27/26 3257 hybrid turbo, 951 ducted FMIC, Custom intake manifold, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, Adj boost - dyno’d at 225bhp @ 1.0bar on previous CGT turbo, Engine datalogged and on boost fuel enrichment managed with Zeitronix ZT2 & Phormula KS4 knock sensor, 944 turbo all alloy radiator, Hayward & Scott custom tapered race exhaust, GAZ Gold coilovers, Fuch'ed up, Quaife LSD
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You can't mean W, surely? 150W would take 58 hours to charge my GTE to do 30 miles!

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